The 'Taylor' Family

1778 - John ???
1809 - James
1845 - James
1858 - Hannah M.
1890 - Maud Emma
1893 - Florence Harriet
1899 - Ethel May
1902 - William E.
1904 - Dorothy Kathleen
1905 - Ernest Charles
1907 - Gertrude
1914 - Robert Hudson
1926 - Jack
1927 - Raymond Ernest
1932 - Alan Bert Jack
1934 - Rita Janet Ivy
1938 - Cherry Marlene
1940 - David Barry
1945 - Stephen Richard
1947 - Raymond John
1948 - Wendy Ethel
1949 - Maureen
1950 - Judith Ann
1951 - Richard David
1954 - Penelope Jill
1956 - Nicholas Robert
1957 - Cherrie Elizabeth
1957 - Gail
1959 - Neil
1961 - Susan Debra
1966 - Claire

I will finish the files at 1966, hopefully someone of the next generation will take it up from there

 

 

Ernest Charles Taylor
1905 - 1971
 
 

Husband:

Ernest Charles Taylor  

Born:

September 29, 1905 114 Goldwell Road: Lakenham: Norwich
Died: October 15, 1971 Palma de Mallorca - Age 65
Buried:    
Parents Edward Taylor
&
Emma Elizabeth Norton Hill
 

 

Wife:

Ivy Maud Grint  

Born:

March 09, 1908 12 Kings Square: Globe Street: Heigham: Norwich
Norwich - Dec quarter (4b 148)
Died: January 11, 1977 Horsford - age 69
Buried: 1977 St Faith Crematory
Parents Bertie Grint
&
Rose Eva Jelly

 

Married:

May 23, 1926 St Marks: Hall Road: Lakenham: Norfolk: Uk (461)

 

 

Children:

Name:

Date of birth:
Birth Place:
Jack Taylor
(Reg as Arthur Taylor)
1926 Norwich - Dec quarter (4b 216)
Raymond Ernest Taylor October 20, 1927 45 Botolph Street, Norwich
Norwich - Dec quarter (4b 148)
Alan Bert Jack Taylor November 24, 1932 Norwich - Dec quarter (4b 154)
Rita Janet Ivy Taylor   Norwich
Cherry Marlene Taylor
(Reg as Marlene C. I. Taylor)
  Norwich
David Barry Taylor   Norwich
Maureen Taylor   Norwich

 

 

File Information:

1905: September 29, Birth, Address: 114 Goldwell Road: Lakenham: Norwich
Birth cert: CL760344:- No420: West Wymer: Norwich:
Mother: Ema-Elizabeth-Nerton-Taylor:- formally Hill
Father Edward-John-Taylor: Seedsman Labour
Registered: November 3, 1905
Entry 420
- information from file certificate

1911: Census - 114 Goldwell Road, Norwich
Edward Taylor - Head - age 41 - Ladour, Mustard - born Norwich, Norfolk
Emma E. Taylor - Wife - age 42 - born Norwich, Norfolk
Maude Emma Taylor - Daughter - age 20 - Mustrd Hand - born Norwich, Norfolk
Edward John Taylor - Son - age 19 - Shop Assistant - born Norwich, Norfolk
Flourence H. Taylor - Daughter - age 17 - Tailoress - born Norwich, Norfolk
Arthur Edward Taylor - Son - age 15 - Box Labolar - born Norwich, Norfolk
John Thomas Taylor - age 14 - Errand Boy - born Norwich, Norfolk
Emma S. Taylor - Daughter - age 12 - Scholar - born Norwich, Norfolk
Ether M. Taylor - Daughter - age 11 - Scholar - born Norwich, Norfolk
Hilda Taylor - Daughter - age 9 - Scholar - born Norwich, Norfolk
Willaim E. Taylor - Son - age 8 - Scholar - born Norwich, Norfolk
Dorothy K Taylor - Daughter - age - Scholar - born Norwich, Norfolk
Ernest C. Taylor - Son - age 5 - Scholar - born Norwich, Norfolk
Gertrude W. Taylor - Daughter - age 3 - born Norwich, Norfolk

It is highly likely that granddad started school at St Mark's School on Hall Road, Norwich. On leaving there it is thought that he went to the' City of Norwich School' on Earlham Road. In those days boys left school at 14 but we are unsure what trade if any he would have taken. We do know that his father worked for Colman's (a large employer of the area at that time) whether he would have done the same it is unclear.

We have about 4 years here to fill in - sometime

(Age 18 approx)
Granddad must have done 2 years National Service and I would assume it was with the RAF. I wonder if the picture of him below in uniform is of this period (abt 1923-5) as he is quite thin and not when he was called up for War Duties at the age of 36.

(Age 21)
1926:
May 23, Marriage at St Marks: Hall Road: Lakenham:
Ernest Charles Taylor, age 20, Bachelor, Shop Assistant of 114 Goldwell Road, Norwich
Ivy-Maude-Grint, age 18, Spinster, of 19 Cross Glebe Street, Norwich
Father: Edward Taylor, Labour
Father: Bertie Grint, Carpenter
Witnesses:- Edward-Taylor and Bertie-Grint

Entry 461 - information from file certificate

During the next few years it is understood that granddad worked as a lino fitter for Frank Price's Store, a popular drapery and soft furnishings store. Price's faced onto both Magdalen and Botolph Street's immediately behind Barclay's Bank sited on the fork in the roads. These properties were pulled down in the late 60's to make way for the Anglia Square flyover.

Below is our grandfathers RAF Service Records which I acquired from Air Command Headquarters the only problem is that it is all in abbreviations and some of the hand writing is quite bad. I am going to ask a retired RAF friend if he can help, if he can't I will write off again and asked if they can decipher it.
In the mean time here's what I can make out but keep in mine I may have translated something's wrong.

Note: I have copys of these records - If anyone would like a copy to help translate the information please ask.

From what I can make out so far granddad was an Armourer, he was part of the massive land grew that was required to service and maintain the constant flow of aircraft going into battle against the Japanese. He would load weapons, bombs and missiles onto the aircraft. After being called up in July 1941 he did his initial training somewhere in England for 5 months before being assigned to the 226 Squadron in November 41. The 226 Squadron was at that time based at Wattisham, Suffolk, and were flying Blenheims and subsequently made an excellent name for itself during anti-shipping operations and Circuses against fringe targets in North-west Europe. It stood down from operations towards the end of October 1941, and when it resumed them early in the New Year it was flying Bostons. Granddad was with the 226 Squadron for 4 months before being posted overseas to India, I assume he traveled by ship as it appears it took 11 days before disembarking at Colombo Ceylon now Sri Lanka an island off the south coast of India, arriving May 29 1942.

Granddad must have gone straight into a war zone and the aftermath of what is now known as the 'Easter Sunday Air Raid' of April 5th 1942 carried out by the Empire of Japan as a part of the Indian Ocean Raid. The raid was intended to disrupt the war effort of British Commonwealth nations and force the British Eastern Fleet to leave Asian waters. A few days later Trincomalee was also attacked.

The Ceylon Daily News reported the raid on Monday 6th April 1942:
"Colombo and the suburbs were attacked yesterday at 8 o'clock in the morning by 75 enemy aircraft which came in waves from the sea. Twenty-five of the raiders were shot down, while 25 more were damaged. Dive-bombing and low-flying machine-gun attacks were made in the Harbour and Ratmalana areas. A medical establishment in the suburbs was also bombed"

The fixed land defences consisted of four coastal batteries at Colombo and five at Trincomalee; these were established just before the war. Air defences were expanded in 1941 with the RAF occupying the civil airfield at Ratmalana near Colombo with its station headquarters set up at Kandawala. Another airbase was rapidly built at Koggala near Galle and several temporary airstrips were built across the country with the largest at Colombo Racecourse grounds. Several RAF squadrons were sent to Ceylon.

This takes us to April 1943 where granddad was admitted to 35 and what looks like B. G. H. - what ever that means, I am still working on this one and the following 3 entries.

On March 29 1943 granddad was assigned to No. 30 Squadron, No.30 Squadron began the Second World War as a Blenheim bomber squadron based in Egypt, but went on serve as a fighter squadron in Egypt, Greece, on Crete and in the Far East, ending the war operating with Thunderbolt fighter bombers over Burma. The Japanese entry into the war took them to Sri Lanka. They arrived just in time to take part in the last defence against the last Japanese air raids on Colombo and Trincomalee. From March 1942 to February 1944 the squadron was retained on Sri Lanka, just in case, but by the start of 1944 it was clear that no more attacks would come.

July 21, 1944 took granddad to what appears to be the 'Bombing Survey Unit' for 7 months before his Home Embarkation on February 6, 1945.

 

Ernest Charles Taylor
 
(Age 36)
1941:
July 18,
Ernest Charles Taylor
Enlisted for the RAF - Information taken from Service Records
Personal Details
   
Official No: 1448712
Home Address: 9 Cadge Close, Norwich, Norfolk
Civil Occupation: Furniture Shop Assistant
Height: 5ft 6ins
Chest 31½ ins
Hair: Light Brown
Eyes Grey
Complexion: Pale
Marks: Scar on bridge of nose
   
Good Conduct Badges
1944: July 18 81/45 - 1st - A
   
Miscellaneous
1941: August 14 Card Entrered to Central Index Department - includes the below line
  43/1 - TPAZ - a stamp that looks like National ??? very faded
  Followed by 2 of his childrens names and D.O.B
1945: July 18 133/45 - W.S.I. wef - 4yrs
1942: September 1 - RAF Elmbridge Court, Gloucester..... below
  Can't understand this as granddad was in India at this time and war was on - His son David died just before this and the inquest was held July 27, so returning home for a funeral is unlikely - Could be movement of records???
1944: February Annual Filming - This is a Rubber stamp
1944: November Annual Filming - This is a Rubber stamp
   
Service Track Record
Date of movement
Unit to
Dep
P.O.R.
P.O.R.
Confirming Arrival
1941: July 18 2 Reserve Command    
no date 1 Wing 16 Reserve Command    
1941: September 5 12 School of Technical Training Depot    
1941: November 25 226 Squadron    
1942: March 18 INDIA    
1942: May 29 looks like - Disembarked at Colombo   863/42
  2 Explosive Park    
1942: September 1 Elmbridge Court, - This was entered in the Miscellaneous section and seems out of place.    
1942: October 1 1 Explosive Park   1763/42
1943: November 16 Renamed S. E. ASIA -This is a rubber stamp.    
1943: April 22 Admitted 35 B.G.H. ? 135Y/43  
1943: May 4 Transferred to ? 1782/43  
1943: May 20 Discharged ? ? ? Day at ??   1782/43
1943: November 20 7 - ? Technical Training Depot   56/43
1944: March 29 30 Squandron   ?
1944: July 21 7 BSU - Bombing Survey Unit?   79/?
1945: February 6 Home Embarkation 18/45  
1945: March 14 Gransden Lodge    
1945: May 13 Swanton Morley 78/45  
1945: October 31 102. Personnel Despatch Centre 153/45  
Mustering
1941: July 18 Aircraft hand/ Armer. B&G ??
1941: November 10 95/41 - Arm (B) prob.(?)
1941: November 13 153/41 - Arm (B)
1943: November 9 1/44 - U/T Armer
1944: March 3 Arm (2)
   
Promotions, Reclassifications, Reversions
Date of Effect
Description
Authy, P.O.R
1941: July 18 Air Craftman 2nd Class  
1942: April 1 Air Craftman 1st Class 685/42
1943: March 31 Air Craftman 2nd Class - Dropped back ?? 21/44
1944: November 1 Leading Air Craftman 38/45 - 122/45
     
Special Qualifications
Exams, Courses,Engines, etc
1941: November 10, Description of Degree of Proficiency
95/41 Ex Ren?????? 38%
085/42 1942: July 15 ??? 81%
21/44 1943: March 3 ???? 52%
38/44 ????? 65%
   
Issue of Medals to 1448712 - LAC Ernest Charles Taylor - Royal Air Force
Burma Star
Defence Medal
War Medal 1939-45
 
RAF badge

(Age 39)
1945:
On returning to civilian life granddad worked for Hingle's, a furniture shop on Magdalen Street. Granddad meet Mr Hingle in Burma where Mr Hingle was one of his Commanding Officers.

(Age 41)
1947:
Purchased Retail Shop at 49 Woodcock Road, to be named 'Rita's' and opened on June 14th.

Granddad outside his shop with his grand-daughter Penny Taylor about 1960

1960's: Early in the 1960's Nanny & Grandad had a bungalow built at 168 Spixworth Road, Old Catton, Norwich - In it's time it was very modern. The two things I remember most are the large oak front gates built round two ship wheels. The other is thel ovely small tiled fire place surround in the lounge that Granddad bought for my grandmother.

Oak Ship Wheel Gates at 168 Spixworth Road Old Catton
Ivy Taylor (Nanny) in her favorite chair at 168 Spixworth Road Old Catton

I have 24 years to fill in, I would appriciate some help......

Ernest and Ivy Taylor pictured at his 65th Birthday Party
Shortly before his sudden death

(Age 65)
1971:
October 15, Died in Policlinica Miramar, Palma de Mallorca
Ernest Charles Taylor, age 66, Shopkeeper, 168 Spixworth Road, Norwich, UK.

Granddad died on a retirement cruise, confirmed by a letter dated October 20, 1971 from John William Edwards, Union-Castle Line
Re: 'Reina Del Ma' Cruise 64: We are sorry to learn form Captain Sillars of your husbands sudden death...... Mr E. C. Taylor's mortal remains were embalmed last evening and will be flown to Heathrow arriving there 14.10 tomorrow

1971: Ernest Charles Taylor of 168 Spixworth Road Old Catton Norwich died October 15th 1971 Probate Ipswich January 8th £5875 - 731006379K.

 

My Memories of our Grandparents and where they lived
My earliest memories of my grandparents were at Woodcock Road, Norwich where they had a drapery shop it was opened on the day I was born (June 14th 1947). In the early days it was an average shop but over the years in was added to quite a lot. Nanny and Granddad lived behind and over the shop, again the living accommodation was enlarged over time. The thing I remember most are the parties, parties which all the family would attend there were always Aunts, Uncles, cousins and friends, I don’t know how we all got in, things were moved round in the shop so that we could eat and play there and I remember that the main party game was water pistols, everyone seemed to have one, they used to hidden up and then someone would set it all off and there were sprays of water going everywhere. I remember my dad dressing in my nanny’s clothes once and my Aunts putting makeup on him, he looked so much like my nanny, there was always much fun and laughter. They had this large piece of furniture with carvings and moldings on it, it was like one of the first music centres, the top used to lift up and inside was a record player. At that time it was very classy, one record we played over and over again I remember was ‘The stage coach is coming’

My granddad would love to have his hair brushed and rewarded us with a sixpence; there was always a queue to brush his hair. My great grandfather (Bertie Grint and his second wife who we always called Aunt Winnie would often be there also, Bertie always seemed to have a smile and would mostly be sucking his pipe and Winnie would often play the piano if she got half a chance.

I learnt to ride my bike outside on the shop plain with the help of my Aunt Cherry, there was a barbers shop next door where I think I had my first haircut, can’t be sure of that but I remember being in the shop and being upset. My nanny and granddad were always in the shop with my Aunt Rita helping, she and Uncle Sid would later live over the shop themselves. In the shop they used to give credit and take Provident and Mutual cheque's. Every week my granddad, my father and later my Uncle Sid would go out round the estates and collect the weekly installments, in those days this was how families lived and survived and in many cases it was the only opportunity of buying goods. My granddad would park his car on the forecourt of the shop and would give me sixpence to polish the chrome with Brasso. There was no television then, in 1952 I recall my Aunt Cherry walking me from the shop to the Norwood Rooms on Aylsham Road to see a film of King George 6th Funeral on the Pathe News, I had never seen such a large screen, I think that was the first time I had been to moving pictures, I was 5.

I remember we moved in with my grandparents for a while after my parents sold their house, 28 Woodcock Road. I started school at Catton Grove School, the playing fields were behind the shop, at play-time I would be able to wave at my grandparents, parents and Aunts who were attending to the shop.

My grandparents had a bungalow built on Spixworth Road (168) and at that time it this was out on the outskirts of the city and seemed just into the country, the street lights would go out at midnight. The bungalow was lovely and had the most marvelous fireplace in the lounge the kitchen was lined with tongue and grove pine boarding and the toilet had a mirrored cabinet which lit up, it was really posh to us, they even had a ‘Teas Maid’ between their beds which was the thing then. Outside, the drive gates were made of oak and had an oak ship’s wheels in each of them which I often applied linseed oil too; there was a large fur tree to one corner at the front which was decorated with coloured lights at Christmas. Christmases were wonderful all the family would be there plus some of my dads Aunts and Uncles, we would all spend Christmas there sleeping over night into Boxing Day. The fun and games would go on till the early hours and then we would try to settle down to sleep, there were bodies all over the bungalow, on the floor, chairs everywhere, I would lay there watching the fire die down until finally falling off to sleep, looking back I really don’t know how they did it. There were larger family parties at Catton Village Hall; Nanny and Granddad always seemed to be pulling the family together with parties. We had a wonderful childhood.

When my grandparents went to Canada my task was to cut the grass I did not take it serious enough for just before their return the grass was about 6 inches high, the mower would not touch it, My Uncle Bob came to my rescue and saved the day.

I never had a very personal relationship with my grandfather not for any reason I just think that was how it was, granddad was always at the shop, I’m not sure if he had any hobbies or interests either. I was closer to my grandmother she had her fathers sense of humour and was always such a lady, I would go and cut her grass after school sometimes, during or after I was invited to take afternoon High Tea with her and a few times she would tell me of the hardships she had when she was a girl. Nanny was always like the head, we always seemed to go to her for things. When I passed my driving test she was the one who lent me £108 to buy my first car, a Hillman Husky. I was given a repayment card with the money and told how much I had to pay back weekly, she was lovely but business minded with it.

My Grandparents had a caravan on the cliffs on the Southside of Gorleston, we would spend our holidays there, they sold it eventually and bought a more up to-date one at Hopton. They let Sandy and I stay there for 2 weeks before I emigrated to Australia. It was while I was in Australia that granddad died taking a holiday cruise, this came like a shot out of the blue we were all flattened we just did not expect this to happen granddad was such a lovely man. After that things never seemed the same – The party was over! My grandfather seemed to have held that generation together but things have to move on and on my side of the family my parents carried on the tradition but that’s another story for another day.

My grandmother eventually moved in with my Aunt Rita and Uncle Sid and sadly died in 1977. - Ray Taylor


The memories of parties at Spixworth Rd were lovely. One thing I remember is when Ivy cooked a turkey, she put lots of drumsticks around the dish like a centipede...because the kids all wanted a leg!!! - Margaret Brawn-Meek formerly Waspe

Every Saturday night I would meet my father out of work at Frank Prices and we would go onto the market and buy the penny bags of reduced fruit. One Saturday I found a glove and said to my father there was a half penny in it, when we got home it turned out to be a shilling my father was elated as it was a lot of money in those days. - Raymond Ernest Taylor

 

 

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